This week we’re talking about things with shiny surfaces: dreams, oceans, celebrities. And we’re talking about the murky things that lie beneath too. Philipp Meyer joins us to talk about his book about the rusted dark side of the American Dream. Kirsty Eager is along as well, to tell a tale about surfing and hidden scars. And we reflect on Michael Jackson’s famously pale surface!
Philipp Meyer, American Rust, Allen and Unwin - interviewed by Paul Kildea
Kirsty Eager, Raw Blue, Penguin - interviewed by Rochelle Fernandez
Bruce Williams, 'Sunshine', Love at Cumbersome Corner (episode 22)
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